tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18212611.post2265729078988802965..comments2023-06-03T21:23:56.934+08:00Comments on Placeholder: Human Family Tree: Paternal Side (Y-DNA)cvjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00327799000000108953noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18212611.post-17442193890288306332012-10-25T20:26:24.485+08:002012-10-25T20:26:24.485+08:00language affinity is a much better indication of g...language affinity is a much better indication of genetic affinity.<br /><br />indo-europeans speakers are a majority of R1-M173.<br /><br />sino-tibetan speakers are a majority of O3-M122.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18212611.post-21128837874255590232012-10-25T20:24:09.742+08:002012-10-25T20:24:09.742+08:00"Dual origins of japanese "
clearly O3..."Dual origins of japanese " <br /><br />clearly O3,O2 is associated with "farmers typical ydna marker", from fudan researcher lihui and yanshi (china academy). <br /><br />O3-M122 is for sino-tibetan language, just like R1-M173 is for indo-european languageAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18212611.post-80619242402078611962008-04-28T16:01:00.000+08:002008-04-28T16:01:00.000+08:00Hi Anonymous, welcome back! Thanks for your obser...Hi Anonymous, welcome back! Thanks for your observations. I agree that Genographic does not keep track of information on a number of sub-clades like the ones you mentioned here (as well as M-134 that you mentioned previously). I will update the blog entry to call attention to your observations.cvjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00327799000000108953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18212611.post-70582818811169887622008-04-28T15:48:00.000+08:002008-04-28T15:48:00.000+08:00Although I am sad to say it, I think the descripti...Although I am sad to say it, I think the descriptions of the various Y-DNA haplogroups that can be found on Wikipedia are more accurate than the descriptions on the Genographic Project's website.<BR/><BR/>First, it is important to keep in mind that the tree is constructed based on genetic "splits" that occur when one male offspring acquires a mutation in his Y-DNA; if this male offspring who has acquired a mutation produces prolific male descendants in the direct line of paternal descent, then the branch of the phylogenetic tree of human Y-DNA which has been defined by the particular mutation acquired by this male offspring will become populous and "notable." The phylogenetic tree has been most elaborately defined in the parts where the branches contain a larger percentage of present-day males; the less common branches have tended to be neglected and are not defined with the same degree of resolution.<BR/><BR/>As an example, the haplogroup C3-M217 Y-chromosomes that are found in about 50% of Mongolian males are not any more closely related to the haplogroup C4 Y-chromosomes that are found in about 50% of aboriginal Australian males than they are related to the C1-M8 Y-chromosomes found in Japan, C2-M38 Y-chromosomes found in central and eastern Indonesia, Melanesia, Micronesia, and Polynesia, and C5 Y-chromosomes found in India, Nepal, and Pakistan. In addition, none of the branches of haplogroup C are necessarily more closely related to each other than haplogroup I, which is commonly found among Scandinavians, Sardinians, and Slavic peoples, is related to haplogroup O, which is found in the majority of Filipinos and Chinese; haplogroup I is a branch of haplogroup IJ which is a branch of haplogroup F-M89, and haplogroup O is a branch of haplogroup K which is also a branch of haplogroup F-M89. All the branches ("subclades") of haplogroup F-M89 might be more closely related to one another than Mongolian C3 is related to Australian C4, but your table does not reflect that fact.<BR/><BR/>Second, the association of haplogroup O3 with "Chinese rice farmers" is very shaky; although haplogroup O3 is the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in China, it is also the most common haplogroup in Korea and the Philippines, as well as being the second most common haplogroup in Polynesia, where it is found in approximately one quarter to one third of the male population. Haplogroup O3 is also found at lower frequencies in Central Asia, Tibet, Indochina, Manchuria, Japan, Indonesia, even parts of India and Pakistan. Have all these places really received enough genetic input from "Chinese rice farmers" for their Y-DNA distribution to be affected so much? I will remain agnostic on this question until more solid evidence has been presented.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com